We’re back with some more episodes of the podcast, starting with this short conversation exploring the idea of "perfectionism" as something that blocks the way to tenderness by letting our ego or pride get in the way of true human connection.

In this episode of The Anatomy of Tenderness Podcast we share a conversation about Pope Francis’ newly translated book, Christmas at the Nativity; we found this book to be such a powerful meditation on physical manifestations of tenderness, the incarnated reality of love, and wanted to unpack what that means together.

In this first episode of The Anatomy of Tenderness podcast, we’re talking about curiosity in conversation with writer and thinker Lore Ferguson Wilbert. Curiosity, in many ways, is the foundation of all love, all relationships, as we open ourselves up in humility and vulnerability to a genuine encounter with the “other”.